25.01.2005, 14:00:59
I've thought about the same thing, but actually, I'd suggest going one step further: Not only should we include the changes of the UMP, but also support for the Assault Map Packs, and, more importantly, the complete TX. Why, you ask? Because that'd mean that, if you say "My mod only works with YR 1.002", you could be 100% sure that you can include assault maps as well as terrain expanded maps.
In other words: We could be sure that whoever has got the latest version, also supports the additional map-types that fly around in the community. Plus, a wider distribution of the TX would allow map-makers to switch to the making of TX-maps. After all, the TX is made because we're not satisfied with WW's terrain, and the UMP is made because we're not satisfied with WW'S code. So why not put it all together? Include the XWIS-client stuff as well, and with only one patch a normal standard YR-user can be upgraded to a normal modder YR-user, with fixed code, support for additional maps, and switched to servers it's actually worth playing on.
Plus, the inclusion of the TX would not prevent the creators to still update and distribute it as usual, as the new mix would still override expand02md, and, if we've done it once, nobody prevents us from doing it again. YR 1.003, with the latest TX, more modding-options, and hardcode-fixing for several previously UMP-fixed issues...you get the idea.
If you didn't guess it by now, I'm a strong supporter of a "real" community patch. I'm aware of the extra MBs that an inclusion of the TX would lead to, but let's be honest: The only reason why the 1.001 patch is so small, is because it doesn't do much. And, compared to patches for current FPSes or DoW-patches, it'd still be relatively small. In the UMP-thread, we were always complaining about how shitty the patch actually was. Let's not repeat Westwood's mistake. Let's go all the way.
P.S.: If we pull this off, I vote for the inclusion of an updated credits-file, acknowledging all the people who helped RA2 and YR modding become what it is today, and, of course, a massive Greetings-section
P.P.S.: I can do the English-German translations as well, so pd can concentrate on coding
In other words: We could be sure that whoever has got the latest version, also supports the additional map-types that fly around in the community. Plus, a wider distribution of the TX would allow map-makers to switch to the making of TX-maps. After all, the TX is made because we're not satisfied with WW's terrain, and the UMP is made because we're not satisfied with WW'S code. So why not put it all together? Include the XWIS-client stuff as well, and with only one patch a normal standard YR-user can be upgraded to a normal modder YR-user, with fixed code, support for additional maps, and switched to servers it's actually worth playing on.
Plus, the inclusion of the TX would not prevent the creators to still update and distribute it as usual, as the new mix would still override expand02md, and, if we've done it once, nobody prevents us from doing it again. YR 1.003, with the latest TX, more modding-options, and hardcode-fixing for several previously UMP-fixed issues...you get the idea.
If you didn't guess it by now, I'm a strong supporter of a "real" community patch. I'm aware of the extra MBs that an inclusion of the TX would lead to, but let's be honest: The only reason why the 1.001 patch is so small, is because it doesn't do much. And, compared to patches for current FPSes or DoW-patches, it'd still be relatively small. In the UMP-thread, we were always complaining about how shitty the patch actually was. Let's not repeat Westwood's mistake. Let's go all the way.
P.S.: If we pull this off, I vote for the inclusion of an updated credits-file, acknowledging all the people who helped RA2 and YR modding become what it is today, and, of course, a massive Greetings-section
P.P.S.: I can do the English-German translations as well, so pd can concentrate on coding
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