Rock Patch 1.10 development thread

[Renegade]

Im afraid I havent lied here but you have. It is a fact that on top of editing out the slander you add your view of the version history over VKs. ...

Where? Quit claiming, prove it!
Did the revisions not exist?
Do the notes not express exactly what VK said, only with less slander?
Did VK not say that all revisions are officially incompatible with previous versions?

The truth is not "my view" of the version history. The truth is only what VK apparently doesn't like to be broadcasted.

... You have multibale times edited VKs at first VK was in the wrong by deleting your page so you in turn deleted his in your "rollback" rather than splitting (or was that not possible?) ...

Where? Quit claiming, prove it!
I did never edit VK's version.
I rolled back vandalism, and I merged both pages.
The only change I ever made on VKVersions is the turning into a redirect. And since the same information is available at Versions now (and more), nothing was lost there - except for the slander.
The only changes I made to versions of Versions created by VK were rollbacks - so I never edited his versions there either.

And since I'm getting kind of tired of this discussion, I'll cut myself some fun and show everybody right away how much you apparently not know about MediaWiki administration - 'cause would you actually know what "rollback" ment, you wouldn't have asked whether splitting wasn't possible:

[...] Clicking on the link reverts to the previous edit not authored by the last editor, with an automatic edit summary of "Reverted edits by X (talk) to last version by Y," [...]

...not to mention that splitting would have created a duplicate page, which, as I explained numerous times before (you know, these long things with text up there..."replies"), are not what we want, and not needed either.

But hey, who's to say you didn't know that? Wouldn't be the first time you dismiss the truth and try to imply malicious intentions instead...

... VK made his own so you merged ...

And as I've told you in almost every post by now, that is entirely in line with our behavior from the past two years, as well as the behavior or about any other wiki operating out there.

... it into your view. ...

Want me to copy the text, or are you capable of scrolling?

... That is fact no matter how you want to throw it in anybodies face. ...

Little hint for the future: If you want to lie into the face of an entire community...make sure there are no version histories proving your opponent's version of the story.

... It is also a fact that you said if he put up another you would merge again. ...

Indeed, because, *scrolls up to find text*
...[it] [...] would [...] create[...] a duplicate page, which, as I explained numerous times before (you know, these long things with text up there..."replies"), are not what we want, and not needed either.

You should quit attempting to brand merges as a bad thing. If it was bad, Wikipedia users would have been up in arms for years. Instead, they have twenty different templates to request and manage merges.

... By that you said anything he puts up you "will" edit to your liking. ...

Yet another lie by The Lord's Propaganda Minister. I merely said that I'd merge any new version page into the existing one.
Which, as I have explained twice in this post alone, is totally in line with our past two years of administrative work, and nothing out of the ordinary at all. In fact, the fact that somebody insists on creating more and more duplicate pages is somewhat special.

What I did say about anything he puts up is that it'll be reverted independent from where it is, simply because of the fact that he's banned.

And if you want to argue against that, please start with a logical explanation of why I should let a banned person work as usual. Because, to the sane mind, that kinda defeats the purpose.

... So in the end you have changed his multible times rather you want to admit it or not. ...

So in the end, you just showed that, no matter what you pretend, you neither read my replies nor have a basic understanding of MediaWiki software and administration. Because, had you done so, you'd know that I did nothing special on ModEnc. At all.

... It seems you just have a problem comprehending a view origenating from someone other than yourself.

You talk about comprehending other people's views after showing line over line of blatant ignorance of what I even did or didn't do?

How about you go back to the first post and start comprehending what's even going on here, what everybody's position is, what everybody did, and then try to lecture me about comprehension?

'cause as far as I can see, I'm repeating the same basic explanations about merging and how duplicate pages are unnecessary over and over again, and you still pretend "merging" is some kind of evil superweapon I used on VK and only VK.

If you comprehended what you were talking about, you probably wouldn't even be talking.

Your very good at twisting words around as you know very well what I ment when I said edit the slander out of the page with out adding your opinion to his versioning. I dont know how much simpler I can word it for you.

Wait a sec...*scrolls up to get the words*
The truth is not "my view" of the version history. The truth is only what VK apparently doesn't like to be broadcasted.

Once more: All I did to his versions listing was not transferring the slander, add his revisions, and "make it prettier".
Picking a better design is not changing the displayed opinion. It does not change the displayed information if it's in a table rather than an unordered list. It's just easier to read.
And adding his revisions is not "adding my opinion" either. Or are you going to pretend these revisions didn't exist or weren't named that?

The information displayed in the "official" part or RockPatch:Versions are, other than in VK's original version of that list, not a question of opinion.
It is a fact that versions 1.00 - RPCE74 existed and were named such.
It is a fact that the revisions and bugfix-versions depicted existed and were named such.
It is a fact that the future versions listed come straight from VK.
It is a fact that RP versions were originally numbered and are now named.
It is a fact that that lead to version-recognition problems with LaunchBase.
It is a fact that you cannot tell from "Hells Edition" and "Summer Edition" which one is newer than the other.
It is a fact that VK's insistence that CE is not 1.09 leads to confusion - bob displayed that in this very thread.

So QUIT. FUCKING. LYING. "RP:Versions is an opinion piece". Everything in the "official" section is the truth. And other than VK's propaganda piece, it's complete and free of slander.

The only thing that's based on opinion is the mapping in the lower section. The mapping seperated by a horizontal line. The mapping clearly marked "entirely community-created and not official". As VK wished.

Come. fucking. out. Show flag. Admit that you're a shill of VK, and nothing more.

But then people wouldn't listen to you anymore, would they?

You are the one attempting to twist reallity here. You twist anything thrown your way. You called me a hypocrit on the subject of his slander when I myself in the same post was against his slander. Do you not read? I said I was against slander. You in turn claim Im for it, even after I pointed out and then repeatedly said I was against it? That is were you twist it.

See? Exactly what I mean. You ignored everything I said, and just try to convince everyone I'm evil.

Whoever is inclined to believe this, scroll up to my previous reply and read my list of contents of VK's and my versions of RP:Versions. You'll see that the only thing that was not transferred was the slander, so the only omission made to VK's page blackheartstar could complain about is the slander.
Yet he claims it's okay to omit it.

It appears we have came to the point where we just repeat ourselves over and over word for word.

If you actually thought about my answers, we'd be past this already.