Rock Patch 1.10 development thread

[Renegade]

Much like yourself. Almost exactly. Only here you are justified by the fact that you do pay for this whole show, and I do appreciate that dispite the fact all it seems we do is argue

How am I doing almost exactly the same as he is doing? When have I ever said anything to the effect of "resume coding, or else..." in this discussion? All I'm doing is actively not complying with his orders, while he is trying to order me around. That looks like two totally different things to me.

Please enlighten me if I'm wrong, but I am honestly unable to see your point.

First I will point towards these parables of terrorism

That implies that I am trying to force you on my side - did I threaten you with anything? Did I not try to reason instead, over three pages now, while all VK does is screaming "BULLSHIT" and make demands?

Again, enlighten me, if you can, but I fail to see the basis for your point.

Then point to the use of indirect influence such as attempting to emply that we are somehow under VKs control if we dissagree with you.

Are you saying all the people telling me to delete the page are not doing so because VK threatens to end RP?
You yourself said they were actually agreeing with me, yet, every few posts, there is one telling me to take it down.
If that is not their actual opinion, is the fact that VK wants them to say that not the only explanation why they would speak against their own opinion?

I then reffer to your version page that was up well before CNCVKs and contains much slander against him. Where he has said some unapproprate things to some of us it was in the forum not up on the modenc well untill his version page went up.

No. Just plain no.
If you read the still-current version, or the original one, you will see that I included some jabs at his naming system (calling it "wacky" and "meaningless", among other things) - if you check out his page instead, you'll see that he attacked me, personally, and on a much lower standard ("stupid" vs. "wacky").

My personal opinion of his naming system is not slander. That's just plain false. And the fact that my page was up first has nothing to do with that. As I noted above, he showed numerous times he was able to edit the page - if it was just the word "wacky" troubling him, he could easily have removed it without killing the entire page.

(And all of that doesn't even take into account the amount of slander he put up in pd's releases' direction - even though pd never even said anything on this topic.)

No becouse then you would look like the bad guy were as right now your only guilty of being abit to stern with you opinion. You want to enforce your way with out looking bad. It also why you go on into such indepth analysis of everything trying to justify yourself thus "look" good.

...dude. VK threatened the entire community over a stupid opinion piece and vandalized one of my sites 6 times. He also threatened multiple times to do stuff himself if I didn't bow to his demands. How could I ever look bad if I banned him? In fact, I honestly believe that, after actions of this magnitude, repeated this many times, and causing so much trouble, he'd already be banned globally on any other network.
You are right, I don't want to come off as the bad guy. But not because I fear to look bad when I protect my server from a vandal, but because I'd rather not come off as the guy who killed RockPatch, for which VK is so cleverly trying to frame me.

This also goes in to the example of your brand of propaganda. Just about everything here is straight propaganda.

Again, I ask you: Where do I work with such methods? Where in this discussion have I threatened bans to people with dissenting opinions, or killing RockPatch if nobody agrees with me?
I have banned VK from ModEnc, yes. Because he vandalized multiple pages several times, and kept returning after he was banned. That is no unique behavior to me, and would have been handled anywhere else in just the same way. In fact, many communities would probably have banned his forum account as well, just to be sure.
So, where am I working on the same level as VK?

I dont claim to realize what he does but it looks like you upset him to the point that he reacted like a child and pulled the project in a attemp to get his way with you.

Yes. And the interesting question following that observation is: Does the fact the he childishly got upset over a nuisance to this degree give him the right to react the way he does?
Am I automatically the bad one, just because he is the one who got upset?

Your stubborn and not willing to give in to his demands.

How is it "stubborn" to not allow him to force me into doing things to my server?
If some random person came into your house and demanded you burn your furniture, would you consider yourself "stubborn" for refusing to do that?


To give you a ray of light: As implied earlier in the post, I'm currently re-writing RP:Versions. I will not delete it, and I will not take down the table, but it will include VK's versions (as it'd be stupid to not only have two version pages, but also to not have the official RockPatch Versions on RockPatch:Versions), and it will make pretty clear that the traditional version mapping is unofficial. It will also objectively mention the problems potentially arising from the version-less system, and (which bob will like) I'll update the mapping table to fit with VK's 1.10.

iow: When I'm done, there's no reason whats-o-ever for him to cry anymore. If he then still doesn't quit his childish antics, I'll consider that proof that I was right all along, and he's just looking for a cheap excuse to quit the project.