28.04.2007, 00:54:31
blackheartstar Wrote:Who exactly is being obedient and/or submissive? You have brought this up several times.You yourself, TheMan, MadHQ, Mevitar, /-\G@/\/\...
...because as much as you all claim to despise VK for doing this, you all act exactly as he wishes: You attack me, after he stopped the patch. You all live in fear he might stop coding RockPatch and would do anything for him to continue, no matter who's right and who's wrong.
blackheartstar Wrote:This is about a name/number scheme of a patch he is developing and somebody publicly down playing him, his work, and his order of release.Come again? No it isn't. VK never mentioned me "down playing" him, his work, or anything. He quite clearly stated this was only about the damn Versions page, only to later advise people to just ignore stuff they don't like.
- He demands I delete stuff he doesn't like, for purely that reason, or wants to dictate how it looks like if he allows it to live.
- I refused to delete stuff just because some random guy on the internet demands it.
That and only that is what this is about. Everything else is just padding.
blackheartstar Wrote:I see no one here bending to CNCVKs will. Infact it seems that most dissagree with him, but do not care all that much what he calls it in the end. That is except for you with your own brand of slander/propaganda.Riiight...because resisting his attempts at blackmail are slander and propaganda. You don't even see anymore how much he influences you, do you? And you wonder who I call obedient?
blackheartstar Wrote:The patch being paused though is his bad in an attempt to make "you" bend to his will as he probably sees no other way. Im doulting you even edit Yuri much if at all anymore so you really could not care less if it is paused or not.Again, someone who obviously failed RockPatch History.
Go to ModEnc, check RP's history a little. See who was the one who fought for RockPatch discussion to continue when DZ's henchmen tried to kill it on the spot.
Don't you think if I didn't care for RockPatch, I'd have long cut this short, given VK the finger, and told him I'd rather burn in hell than to find a compromise?
I love RockPatch. That is the reason why I extensively supported it in the past, why I hate to see what VK turned it into, why I fight for it to return to its old glory rather than sinking deeper into meaninglessness, and why I keep this discussion going in hopes that VK finally realizes wtf he is doing and tries to cooperate instead of fighting.
I want RockPatch to continue. But even my patience has limits. I have accepted a whole lot of weird antics from VK in the past few months, but I am not going to give up control of my own server to an internet madman because he blackmails the community.
As much as you might find this term too heavy at the moment: What he does, essentially, is terrorism - "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion ".
He systematically feeds your fears that he might quit coding RockPatch, and, while you all (at least most of you) claim to realize what he does, you still fall for his manipulation and direct your anger towards me rather than him.
Hostage-taking, blackmail, terrorism - it doesn't matter what you call it. It is an act of aggression by him, against the community, with the goal to discredit me and force me into giving up control.
So if you want the aggression to end, fight the source - not the target.
blackheartstar Wrote:It is an opinion based argument no one can be factualy right/wrong.That is true. Yet you are forgetting the surrounding actions. VK holding RockPatch hostage was clearly wrong. Vandalizing ModEnc was clearly wrong. Not obeying the terrorist is clearly right. Trying to reach consent rather than forcing my way through is clearly right.
Just because there are few facts that can be proven right or wrong does not mean there are no right or wrong positions in this discussion.
/-\G@/\/\ Wrote:Ren you shit. You have gone waaay to far with this. Move Rock Patch to a other forum please. Then this site will die becuse it aint shit without RP.Yet another one who didn't read the thread before posting...
Even if you own this site you should not act like a fucking dictator!
...or just a sock puppet for VK?
While we're on the topic of projects other than RP, and I have your attention anyway...*points at red text in sig*
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