So there's finally a new RockPatch version out. Cool.
I didn't try it yet (I use TFD and got no clue whether that is fixed already or not), but it seems obvious when looking at through the recent posts in this forum: RPCE is celebrating with more bugs and destroyed features than new stuff that actually works fine.
Heck, with RPCE installed, the game isn't even compatible to itself.
I never experienced a greater confusion after an RP release, and this is definitely caused by tag name changes and other evil stuff that are mostly pointless.
Let me quote a few things.
Most of them are questions that have been answered already, but I'd like to comment on them anyway.
With "you" I'll be addressing CnCVK.
MadHQ Wrote:Ok so what do we install this too? 1.08SE... or 1.08SE with revision .0035... or what...
Good point. After introducing that weird revision system, someone should have mentionned what the hell to do with the patch exe. Given that the patcher doesn't even work correctly (see below), this confuses people already before they actually downloaded the patch. Great.
Pointless name changes, typos in the offline help
RPCE features list Wrote:Third campaign TUT1 -> THD1 now
This is probably one of the most pointless name changes ever. The only thing I thought when I saw that in the features list was: WHY???
Come on, there is no
reason in hell for that change. Only thing it does is make life harder for those who added a third campaign. Oh, and it raises the confusion level.
The worst thing is, that offline help appeared to have changed tag names mistyped so it didn't help at all. CnCVK, is possible you're too confused yourself so you mistype your new tags?
Why have an offline help anyway? What did Ren, D and me compile those ModEnc pages for? I abolished offline help files because they're hard to keep up to date. For exactly that reason above (typos, other mistakes).
BobingAbout Wrote:its all in the help, although it doesn't explain it too well
And then it doesn't even have quality...
Marshall Wrote:Yes, manually delete expandmd02.mix
Ah right, the non-removal of expandmd02.mix. If it doesn't remove that file automatically, why have an installer at all? Isn't this the job of an installer, to do things automatically?
This sort of thing could have been discussed before, if VK just didn't keep this version a secret.
The First Decade
It's cool to see a new RP version out which I (let me remind you that I was the one starting this project) can't even install.
Marshall Wrote:Yes, early versions of the RPCE installer do not work on The First Decade. A fixed version is with CnCVK and will hopefully be uploaded soon.
Why does 1.08SE work on The First Decade and CE not? I see no point here.
I don't even know whether this has been fixed already. There's too many complaints around here, you can't really keep track of what's fixed and what's not. This really sucks.
Since new SW system, you MUST NOT use Warhead=Nuke.[/quote Wrote:What the ztyping hell is up?
This very "feature" makes the game incompatible to itself, since the nuke reactor's DeathAnim uses that warhead itself.
And what the hell and especially WHY did you change to the nuke warhead? I really want an detailed explanation on that.
[quote="However, I not recommend to use nuke clones in mods too :("
So RPCE removes the Nuke clone feature?
Nuke clones worked fine afaik. I don't know why you're messing with them. Why don't you just leave them alone? You're not improving it - like you like to say - you're destroying it.
Another interesting case.
TheMan Wrote:I had same problem as you, its not your codes its a CE bug. I think this will be fixed in next rivision
Great. Let's all wait till the next revision comes out and confuses us even more.
Again, this can be categorized under "stupid, pointless tag name changings". LStorm instead of LS. The only thing this does is making modders angry.
Then it seems whatever you did doesn't even work. So you destroyed LS clones, too, awesome.
I'm running out of quotes at the moment.
But well, that should be enough - for now.
My conclusion is that RPCE isn't progressing the RockPatch development, it's more like the beginning of the end of the patch.
Seriously, this version's DL link should be removed from the site and we should go back use 1.08SE.
CnCVK, you should really explain several things, and please, explain them
, don't come with things like "it's better" or "it will be great" or whatever. Cause frankly, that seems to be lies.
After that, we should discuss how this version could be fixed. I have only little hope since a lot of stoff is pretty much fucked up now.