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Cellspread/Range
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For reference, the block added to the page was
patric/ModEnc Wrote:Note that diagonal range, as well as cellspread range is, exactly, to the decimal, calculated using the Pythagorean Theorem/Distance Formula. For example, using (8,6) and (7,7): The distance away in cells for (8,6) is 10, and (7,7) is 9.8995. A weapon with cellspread 9.9 will not reach (8,6), but will reach (7,7). Using this, (1,1) would require approximately a 1.415 cell spread/range. Please update the table and graph. (Patric20878 12:12, 24 November 2009 (UTC))

I have taken it off the page for the moment based on the following reasons:
  1. Simply formal reasons. It would need a complete rewrite anyway, so taking it off while the discussion runs ensures page coherence.
  2. The message is unclear. While the math is certainly interesting, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to express. Ultimately the way I understand what you wrote, you showed that a distance of 9.89 is within the reach of CellSpread=9.9, while 10 isn't. That is sort of expected?
  3. Wrong units. D, after checking the exe, clearly stated that the distance calculation uses leptons; so while your math may not necessarily be wrong, it is using the wrong units for the task, and would at least need re-doing with leptons.
  4. Extremely authoritative tone regarding Pythagoras. This kind of connects to #2. For the first 10 reads, I was convinced you were saying the game itself is using Pythagoras, and that was very dubious without evidence. (Very much not impossible, of course, but should at least be supported by someone who has actually seen the distance calculation code.) Reading it again, I think you're just pointing out how distance is calculated in general, which, of course, is correct, and very thought- and helpful, but only marginally connected to usage of CellSpread in practice.

Having read your post a dozen times or so, I do think you're ultimately just showing mathematically that the graph is wrong. That's alright, and that's certainly correct, given that the graph is for the old assumption of how CellSpread works; I simply didn't get around to updating it yet - I will do that now.

If that's all you were trying to do (point out that the graph is wrong), I hope an updated graph resolves the issue. Mind, though, that such things are best done on the talk page, not in the middle of the article.

Independent from all of this, signing your contributions within article pages should not happen. That's for talk pages, to attribute positions in discussions and other messages.

As said, if that the graph was wrong was all that was the issue, we acknowledge that, it simply hasn't been updated yet (that's the reason why it's in the "traditional view" part of the page).
If you meant something else, please try to explain, because that's all I got out of it. :/
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Messages In This Thread
Cellspread/Range - by patric20878 - 24.11.2009, 14:50:34
RE: Cellspread/Range - by Renegade - 25.11.2009, 02:30:50
RE: Cellspread/Range - by DCoder - 25.11.2009, 08:08:31
RE: Cellspread/Range - by Renegade - 25.11.2009, 23:09:31
RE: Cellspread/Range - by patric20878 - 25.11.2009, 23:18:50
RE: Cellspread/Range - by Renegade - 26.11.2009, 00:02:25
RE: Cellspread/Range - by patric20878 - 26.11.2009, 02:18:27
RE: Cellspread/Range - by Renegade - 26.11.2009, 03:43:42
RE: Cellspread/Range - by patric20878 - 26.11.2009, 05:50:53
RE: Cellspread/Range - by Renegade - 26.11.2009, 19:32:49
RE: Cellspread/Range - by patric20878 - 26.11.2009, 23:30:09
RE: Cellspread/Range - by Renegade - 27.11.2009, 03:49:04
RE: Cellspread/Range - by patric20878 - 27.11.2009, 16:24:55
RE: Cellspread/Range - by DCoder - 27.11.2009, 20:06:13
RE: Cellspread/Range - by Renegade - 27.11.2009, 21:15:46



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