24.02.2005, 00:05:13
When I read this last night I thought it was a good idea, but upon reflection I don't anymore. Personally I have already gotten the benefits of that perspective when I lurked in the old official forums gathering info for the first version of CR. I don't believe there will be anything new beyond what the latest maphack is.
Given that perspectives run the range of how on one hand, the game should be completely untouched, to how the Yuri side should be nerfed out of existence on the other hand.... all I think will result is flame wars that we could really do without.
Also there has never been a gaming community that has been strung along for such a long time over a promised patch as this one has. First Westwood's US community manager kept up the 'upcoming patch' fiction for 9 months, followed by a campaign in the official forums for a supposed community patch which favored one clan's style of play, followed by an online petition, followed by a completely absurd scam by PCNC to make fans believe they were working with developers of the game to make a real official patch. At this point I believe there's little point in talking anymore... if you're going to do this, then just deliver it. Once delivered, then work on getting acceptance for the patch, and gather whatever feedback that is offered to tweak it for a subsequent update.
Acceptance hinges greatly on limiting the modding to the very subtle. If these guys smell a mod this thing will go nowhere with them. This also means no new game modes. Maybe you can get away with the super mode (only strategic supers on). But definitely not Assault. I would very much like Assault to get wider acceptance and use (which would tend to introduce more players to the mods that use Assault, which after all is the main reason Assault exists). Assault could be included in the second release as a trial sort of thing, if the acceptance level of the first release is good. Even then, it would probably have to be limited to a special mappack that included nothing but assault versions of offical maps (these guys will not play fan maps. Fan maps are the kiss of death if you want acceptance).
Well I've said my piece. The decision is yours.
Given that perspectives run the range of how on one hand, the game should be completely untouched, to how the Yuri side should be nerfed out of existence on the other hand.... all I think will result is flame wars that we could really do without.
Also there has never been a gaming community that has been strung along for such a long time over a promised patch as this one has. First Westwood's US community manager kept up the 'upcoming patch' fiction for 9 months, followed by a campaign in the official forums for a supposed community patch which favored one clan's style of play, followed by an online petition, followed by a completely absurd scam by PCNC to make fans believe they were working with developers of the game to make a real official patch. At this point I believe there's little point in talking anymore... if you're going to do this, then just deliver it. Once delivered, then work on getting acceptance for the patch, and gather whatever feedback that is offered to tweak it for a subsequent update.
Acceptance hinges greatly on limiting the modding to the very subtle. If these guys smell a mod this thing will go nowhere with them. This also means no new game modes. Maybe you can get away with the super mode (only strategic supers on). But definitely not Assault. I would very much like Assault to get wider acceptance and use (which would tend to introduce more players to the mods that use Assault, which after all is the main reason Assault exists). Assault could be included in the second release as a trial sort of thing, if the acceptance level of the first release is good. Even then, it would probably have to be limited to a special mappack that included nothing but assault versions of offical maps (these guys will not play fan maps. Fan maps are the kiss of death if you want acceptance).
Well I've said my piece. The decision is yours.
C-GEN: The site with the 'log the f*ck in' forum. And now we make you validate your f*cking e-mail address too.
CannisRules: It's a YR mod.
CannisRules: It's a YR mod.