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WHAT the hell is going on?
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AlliedG Wrote:ROFL at Blade, some people actually intend to finish mods (Mental Omega is a prime example) unlike leaving there mod on permanent on hold basis because they can't be arsed to update thus no feedback/interest if they have some news announcement, etc *rolls eyes*

That's a fair comment, and so is mine that if you plan on finishing something soon, don't have a dependency on something that isn't finished and then complain when that dependency changes and breaks compatibility. If you want the extra features of the RP, then you need to be prepared to go back and fix compatibility with maintenance releases.

Quote:Perhaps RP compatiable mod should just have a version of the old RP exe attached to it ... e.g. only use 1.07b for this mod ...

Maybe, there are arguments for and against that approach.

Quote:Also Blade your a modder who has been around long enough in the community, your WIP arguement is a load of nonsense, I could say your deezire pre-release soviet lab was WIP and how you couldn't be arsed to fix it/update it even after I mention the 255 white color issue which occurs at low lighting levels 7 years ago on Eclipse Network forums.

I'd agree with you, it is a WIP. I've said many times that people are free to fix that themselves and distribute it though. I'd feel the same way about a mod I'd made if I made it clear I wasn't working on it anymore and wasn't going to fix compatibility myself. That's another reason I don't agree with using crap like leechkiller... how the hell is someone else going to fix problems with my mod if I decide I don't want to?

Quote:Renaming stuff which is unessecary or inconsistent e.g. 4th not Fourth for instance is a pain is annoying. Non documentation or missing, incomplete documentation is a pain in the arse. Regressing back to offline help files when ModEnc dedicated files exist.

I agree, but these are administrative issues rather than bugs with the code. Its not like the WW code itself is totally consistent and their documentation has many mistakes in it as well.

Quote:Inadequate testing (last time I checked testing requires normally more then one person) means the patch will cause IE or strange and noticeable bugs on a regular basis.

We are not demanding backwards compability, we are just asking for common sense ...

I agree more testing should be done and again this is an administrative issue that CnCVK should really look into IMO. There may also be some difference in what people interpret as requests for common sense and what they interpret as demands.

Quote:(1) not to randomly change tag names when they work fine
(2) justify changes and detailed explanations (perfect example as shown in post 41)
(3) testing or invites for proper testing on LAN/Online/Skirmish/Campaign, etc
(4) better co-operation between patcher and installer personnel
(5) not to add a million new additions.

1. I think most people agree with that, but there are justifications.
2. CnCVK can teach or he can do. It needs a balance and the more time he is talking explaining and justifying, the less time he is patching in new features.
3. Agreed
4. That is being worked on and is an administrative issue that isn't even really handled by CnCVK. His job in this whole project is to add new features so that modders can use them. He could just stick the modified exe up and say 'here, go figure out how to use it'.
5. And there was me thinking that people wanted new features adding. I think its clear that at this stage, the patch isn't stable and doesn't have a finalised feature set and it may never have. See comments on basing stable finished mod projects on it above in that case. I think what you mean is a balance between new features and eliminating bugs. Better Beta testing before public release would benefit here.


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WHAT the hell is going on? - by pd - 12.02.2007, 09:39:37
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 12.02.2007, 10:09:58
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by pd - 12.02.2007, 10:14:57
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Guest - 12.02.2007, 14:08:30
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Marshall - 12.02.2007, 14:44:41
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Renegade - 12.02.2007, 15:20:22
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Blade - 12.02.2007, 20:33:22
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Marshall - 12.02.2007, 20:41:11
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by tsactuo - 12.02.2007, 21:42:32
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by TheMan - 12.02.2007, 21:53:51
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by pd - 12.02.2007, 22:07:13
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by VK - 12.02.2007, 22:35:41
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by AlliedG - 12.02.2007, 22:56:51
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 12.02.2007, 23:55:10
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by tsactuo - 13.02.2007, 02:55:31
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by AlliedG - 13.02.2007, 03:24:09
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by wthigon - 13.02.2007, 04:05:07
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 13.02.2007, 09:41:58
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by AlliedG - 13.02.2007, 13:27:12
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Whiteboy - 13.02.2007, 14:25:00
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Marshall - 13.02.2007, 14:33:12
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Hunt7s - 13.02.2007, 16:08:32
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by tsactuo - 13.02.2007, 18:12:57
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Nighthawk - 13.02.2007, 19:12:49
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by VK - 13.02.2007, 20:05:26
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 13.02.2007, 20:24:42
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by pd - 13.02.2007, 20:24:34
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by FS-21 - 13.02.2007, 21:25:38
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by pd - 13.02.2007, 21:35:30
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by VK - 13.02.2007, 22:24:36
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Marshall - 13.02.2007, 22:47:14
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by MadHQ - 13.02.2007, 23:07:02
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 13.02.2007, 23:39:18
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by AlliedG - 14.02.2007, 00:25:59
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by OmegaBolt - 14.02.2007, 00:34:58
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by wthigon - 14.02.2007, 00:56:15
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 14.02.2007, 02:17:48
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Blade - 14.02.2007, 03:16:21
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Renegade - 14.02.2007, 03:29:13
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by AlliedG - 14.02.2007, 12:37:14
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Blade - 14.02.2007, 16:55:46
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 14.02.2007, 18:44:37
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 14.02.2007, 12:54:16
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Renegade - 14.02.2007, 15:08:27
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 14.02.2007, 15:36:54
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Nighthawk - 14.02.2007, 19:55:47
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Bobingabout - 14.02.2007, 21:09:36
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by tsactuo - 14.02.2007, 21:45:14
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by pd - 15.02.2007, 10:15:24
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by AlliedG - 15.02.2007, 12:46:18
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by VK - 15.02.2007, 15:54:20
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Blade - 15.02.2007, 21:04:10
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by Marshall - 16.02.2007, 14:33:08
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by VK - 16.02.2007, 18:21:19
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by AlliedG - 26.02.2007, 03:28:39
RE: WHAT the hell is going on? - by rami the bananajunky - 26.02.2007, 13:57:15



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