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DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Cool Guest - 06.06.2009 Hello DCoders INI Checker need improvemts Here is what I think: When you press, the "Check" button, there should be diffrence/more options: - Check if weapon dont exist on unit/bulding - Check if a projectile is missing - Check if a warhead is missing - Check if there is a code that is misspelled/dont exist - Check if a Deathweapon is missing Also: - Be able to fix problem itself, exempel if some warhead exist in [Warheads] but not anywere else, it should be erased - Save all errors in a txt file(so you can use the search funktion, I got like 1000 errors) - Handle Npatchs new armor types and countries Its a great tool and need some more work imo RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Renegade - 06.06.2009
If you design a weapon, reference a warhead, and never write that warhead, you deserve a crash and it is an important part of learning. If you did write the warhead, it is important that you can find, identify and fix the issue, rather than having some wannabe-HAL doing guesswork on your code in the background. All in all, your post is a prime example of how not to do it. From the unexplained, unqualified claims that the tool "need improvemts" (sic), that it "need some more work" (sic), over the fact that you are willingly infecting your game with known bug-ridden software and then claim the INI Checker needs more work, to the clear implication that your modding skills are non-existent in the first place, and that many of the issues you list wouldn't be issues if you just sat down and thought about what you are doing for a second, garnished by spelling that should be impossible in an age of inbuilt spell checkers, and spiced by a surprising lack of politeness, there is nothing in your post you got "right" in any way. You didn't even manage to choose the correct forum area to post in. Go and fix your code. Once you're down to 1 or 2 bugs that you can't find, and you weren't able to track them to simple, recurring situations, and you can be 100% sure the random crashes aren't due to the fact that you use NPatch, then you can come back and, in a friendly, non-dismissive matter, ask for a few more checking modes to be implemented to help you. But as long as it's obvious that the problems are you and your modding environment, there is no need to fix the tool. RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Beowulf - 06.06.2009 I agree it could do with some improvements and DCoder has agreed with that himself, but for the large part, the Checker has always helped me eliminate a lot of typos and other errors before releases and betas and spared me hours of bug hunting. By and large, it's a very effective tool for RA2 and its expansion. Besides, the NPatch can fuck off with it causing unexplainable errors. RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - DCoder - 06.06.2009 Please keep in mind that the INI Checker hasn't been updated since 2004. It can't be expected to support everything the community has learned since then. Quote:When you press, the "Check" button, there should be diffrence/more options:Already works. Quote:- Check if a Deathweapon is missingValid complaint. Quote:Also:Not a chance. Quote:- Save all errors in a txt file(so you can use the search funktion, I got like 1000 errors)If you get 1000 errors, a search function is the least of your worries. But yes, that list is hard to use. Quote:- Handle Npatchs new armor types and countriesNo. No, no, no. Bottom line, I doubt I'll really update it, if anything, I'd rewrite it from scratch, but that would require time, and lots of it. I wrote INI Checker during my last year of high school, when free time was a lot easier to get. Nowadays, I have a full time job, and also do most of the coding for Ares. As much as I'd like to make the INI Checker useful again, I don't have enough free time to do that and everything else. Administrative Notice:Also, vroom vroom moved.RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Guest - 06.06.2009 (06.06.2009, 20:00:40)DCoder Wrote:Read the first sentense of my quote. Honestly that is the only importat thing that need to be added imoQuote:When you press, the "Check" button, there should be diffrence/more options:Already works. Also Ren, 0_o Quote:Besides, the NPatch can fuck off with it causing unexplainable errors.Dont go offtopic, if you dont like NPatch you can go to revora and complain non-stop RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - DCoder - 06.06.2009 What good are those options going to do? All the things you listed are causes for IE, and it's not like you save a lot of time by (de)activating them? And no, we don't like NPatch. RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Renegade - 06.06.2009 (06.06.2009, 21:32:12)Guest Wrote:Read the only sentence of his quote. That stuff has already been added.(06.06.2009, 20:00:40)DCoder Wrote:Read the first sentense of my quote. Honestly that is the only importat thing that need to be added imoQuote:When you press, the "Check" button, there should be diffrence/more options:Already works. (06.06.2009, 21:32:12)Guest Wrote: Also Ren, 0_oWhat? Had you read and followed what I said, your posts in this thread would be more relevant as well. Stop bitching about INI Checker and instead go clean up both your mod and your game. Then try again. (06.06.2009, 21:32:12)Guest Wrote: Dont go offtopic, if you dont like NPatch you can go to revora and complain non-stopSomeone who posts about general design issues of D's tools in the RA2/YR modding area rather than D's tool shack doesn't get to tell people not to go off topic. Besides, his comment is actually rather relevant to the topic at hand, because, as said before, NPatch is a buggy piece of shit, and numerous of your problems could be related to it. In case you didn't grasp that from my first post, I'll explain it again: You are in no position to judge the capability of the INI Checker, because your installation is tainted by NPatch. You could have a perfectly fine INI, the game crashes because you use NPatch Piece of Crap 2007 GoldRed Winter Snow Christmas Summer Deluxe++ Mega 2008 Platinum Edition, and you'd go cry "INI Checker needs to be fixed! It doesn't find all errors!". NPatch is on topic. As long as you purposefully install a bug generator in your game, you cannot objectively judge INI Checker's effectiveness, because you have no way of knowing whether your errors are due to an INI flaw undetected by INI Checker, or because of NPatch. RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Guest - 07.06.2009 damn man Ren you are an idiot, I post some suggestions to DCoder, and from no were you come and attack me The one who is bitching and whining is you. And this topic is NOT about NPatch, fuck NPatch dont metion it again RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Lt Albrecht - 07.06.2009 Quote:damn man Ren you are an idiot, I post some suggestions to DCoder, and from no were you come and attack me(F*A/I-L)^REN^ Yeah, you failed to the power of Renegade, that's bad... LOL, you do realise renegade is the owner/admin of tis site, right? Also. he's doing it because Dcoder has FAR better things to do with his time than cater to your whims. And actually, he did answer you but you practically ignored him. He said one or two things would be done if he didn't have muuch more important things to do. RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - DCoder - 07.06.2009 That's it. Rationalize your "most important change", Mr. Guest, or shut up. Quote:Quote:When you press, the "Check" button, there should be diffrence/more options:What good are those options going to do? All the things you listed are causes for IE, and it's not like you save a lot of time by (de)activating them? RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Renegade - 07.06.2009 Yes...I am sure the admin of a forum is coming "from nowhere"...especially to bad, misplaced, misinformed, senseless posts. Also, little reality check:
Once more, since maybe enough repetition will get it through your skull:
So, Mr. oh-so-cool guest: You have two options. You can either finally realize DCoder is talking to you, and try to make a case for your retarded suggestions, or you can listen to me, fix your goddamn mod, and then try to run INI Checker on something that qualifies as an INI, rather than random characters saved as one. But rest assured, insulting people is getting you nowhere. (In case there was any doubt about it, this guest is subject to the second and tenth commandment.) RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Guest - 07.06.2009 If I get a IE, I check the EIP and get 00772A98. Then I go to modenc and check the DCoders EIP List and se that there is something wrong with a projectile. Then would it be easy if it looked like this: RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - MRMIdAS - 07.06.2009 CTRL+F PROJECTILE= ??? PROFIT! RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - Renegade - 07.06.2009 We should harvest his skull. The marketers of Kevlar will pay us a fortune for a truly impenetrable material. RE: DCoders INI Checker need improvemts - DCoder - 07.06.2009 Food for thought: I've seen two imperial fucktons of excepts with that exact EIP where people swore up and down that their Projectiles were all intact and the checker couldn't find any issues either. One thing they all had in common? They were running NPatch. Also, let's see if images can do what words failed to. It already detects the Weapons, Projectiles and Warheads referenced by the ingame objects. |