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[split] 250W? In 2008? - Bobingabout - 12.11.2008
(11.11.2008, 02:21:39)Renegade Wrote: For example, I can perfectly fine install a 250 watt power supply unit into a 2008 computer - the connectors and standards are all the samejust to be a smart arse, you're wrong there.
1. a 2008 PC would use ATX2, using a 24 pin connector, a 250W PSU would either be AT, which is only a pair of 6 pin connectors, or a crap ATX, which is a 20 pin connector
2. a 2008 PC would likely also require a "CPU Power" connector, which is actually more of a chipset power connector, which is a 4, or 8 pin connector that provides extra 12V lines.
3. a 2008 PC would also likely be using a SATA drive, so would require a SATA power connector, instead of a molex power connector.
4. a 2008 PC might be using a powerful PCIe graphics card, which would require a 6, or 8 pin PCIe-Graphics power connector
this is just the ones i can think of off the top of my head.
but i do grant you the original idea, because all voltage lines of the ATX2 all exist on ATX, though, to make it connect, you'd have to do some modding.
if anything, it actually re-inforces your point that its a stupid idea to try and use an old 250W power supply to power your brand new 2008 PC.
RE: changing a map from Yuri to RA - Renegade - 13.11.2008
Bob.
First of all, if you wanna play smart and make me look stupid, at least get your facts right.
Wikipedia Wrote:ATX12V — 20 pin main connector, 4 pin secondary connector, 8 pin tertiary connector (Pentium 4 and mid/late Athlon XP & Athlon 64)Emphasis added.
* ATX12V 1.3 — guidance for the −5 volt feed was removed. This was only used by legacy ISA add-in cards.
* ATX12V 2.0 — 20 pin main connector, 4 pin secondary connector (Pentium 4, Core 2 Duo, and Athlon 64 with PCI Express)
* ATX12V 2.1 — One 20-pin connector, one ATX12V 4 pin connector. Many power supply manufacturers include a 4 plus 4 pin, or 8 to 4 pin secondary connector instead, which can also be used as the secondary EPS12V connector.
* ATX12V 2.2 — One 24-pin connector, one ATX12V 4 pin connector. Main Power Connector changed from 20 pin to 24 pin to support PCI-Express requirements.
Secondly, meet the Bestec TFX0250D5W Rev X4 TFX Power Supply, which features:
link above Wrote:# One 24 Pin ATX Connector...all at 250 watts. Any other superfluous comments from your side? No? Good, then stfu.
# One P4 Connector
# One Floppy Connector
# Three SATA Connectors
As I said above - if you wanna play smart and make me look stupid, at least get your facts right.
Epilogue
When I was done with that above, I was gonna look for a currently available computer with onboard graphics, just to show that the PCIe connector wasn't mandatory.
What I found was a trillion times better.
Read excerpts from the specs of the Dell Inspiron 530s series, right now, in 2008:
Dell UK website Wrote:Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo Processor E8400 (3.00GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache)
Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo Processor E8500 (3.16GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache)
Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo E7200 processor (2.53GHz, 1066MHz, 3MB cache)
Dell UK website Wrote:Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium
Dell UK website Wrote:Intel® G33 Express Chipset
Dell UK website Wrote:Up to 4GB2 Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM (800MHz)
Dell UK website Wrote:# Up to 500GB Single Serial ATA Hard Drive
# 640GB [2x320GB 7200rpm] Serial ATA drives (Non-RAID)
Dell UK website Wrote:Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator 3100
ATi Radeon HD 2400 XT
Dell UK website Wrote:PCI: 2 Slots
PCIe x1: 1 Slot
PCIe x16 (Graphics): 1 Slots
Dell UK website Wrote:ChassisEmphasis added.
250 Watt DC Power Supply
* Backup battery: 3-V CR2032 lithium coin cell
So. Wanna tell me again I'm wrong when I say you could fit a 250 watt PSU into a 2008 computer? I guess Dell advertises impossible machines on their website?
RE: [split] 250W? In 2008? - DCoder - 13.11.2008